
15-37 Oregon Mismanages Everything | It won’t even follow its own laws
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Show 15-37 Summary: In the difficult shadow of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, we welcome two guests to discuss Oregon’s mismanagement of everything. Does Oregon do anything right? We discuss two key areas Oregon constantly bungles: health care and school trust lands.

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Air Dates: September 13th & 14th, 2025 | Guests: Lisa Lettenmaier & Dave Sullivan
This Week – Oregon Mismanages Everything
This week was tough. Only an hour before our scheduled interview with our first guest, Dave Sullivan, we learned that Charlie Kirk had been shot. We called to reschedule as we absorbed the news, we prayed, only to learn Charlie had been pronounced dead.
It really put things into perspective. But we also know Charlie wants everyone to continue the fight and to stand up to the Left, and, in Oregon’s case, that’s the Left’s dominance of state government. Which is why everything Oregon does is mismanaged.
It’s stunning, really. You’d think just by sheer accident they could do something right. But from ODOT to schools to health care to its forests to its school trust lands, Oregon is the prime example of what not to do.
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Oregon Mismanages Health Care
First up, we welcome back our go-to expert for health insurance, Lisa Lettenmaier. Because insurance cost in Oregon is going up. A lot. What has Oregon done to mess this up? And why is it going up? We know what the Left-stream media blames. Just like everything else, they are blaming Trump and his policies.
Except, that’s not the reality. Tune in to hear what’s actually causing the increases.
Oregon Mismanages its School Trust Lands
We also welcome back Dr. Dave Sullivan. The last time we talked, he had filed a lawsuit against the State of Oregon for refusing to obey its own laws to manage the School Trust lands. That was 2022. No surprise, Oregon is still mismanaging them. Except it’s gotten worse.
The good news is — there is great news.
Lawsuits to force Oregon to obey the law are expensive. If you can, please donate to help them continue the fight. Head to OASTL.org (Oregon Advocates for State Trust Lands) to explore more or jump to their donate page.
Dr. Sullivan’s case just won their first hurdle: standing. And to do so, the Coos County judge relied on a somewhat unconventional approach. Because of the historical facts, he ruled the case fell under common law, not statute. While it seemed a novel approach to us, applying common law, it turns out, is more common than we thought. Listen and find out why.
And when you do, you’ll also hear just how badly Oregon gets its school trust lands “management” wrong. Turns out, they’re fighting more than 200 years of history.
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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info
Lisa Lettenmaier is an expert at finding you the best, most cost-effective health insurance or Medicare plan. Let her help you take the hassle out of it. Call or email her, just visit HealthSourceNW.com
Dr. Dave Sullivan’s website is Oregon Advocates for School Trust Lands (OASTL). Head to oastl.org to learn more. Please donate to help them fight Oregon’s mismanagement to make Oregon follow its own laws and manage the school trust lands. It’s in Oregon’s Constitution for pity’s sake!
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