Category: Candidates

15-44 How to Win (and NOT to Win) Oregon

15-44 How to Win (and NOT to Win) Oregon

Show 15-44 Summary: .When it comes to Republicans’ chances in Oregon for statewide races, they don’t need Democrats to defeat them. Because Republicans can, and all too often are, their own worst enemies. After Christine Drazan’s announcement this week that she is officially running once again for governor, there is already a slew of social media posts by Republicans saying they will never vote for her. Which is a great way not to win. So how do Republicans win? We talk with a long-time Republican consultant and a a recent “outsider” Oregon political activist to get their thoughts.

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Air Dates: November 1st & 2nd, 2025 | Guests: Greg Leo & Chuck Wiese

This Week – Can Oregon Republicans Not Kill Their Chances?

Republicans can save Oregon but they have to save each other first. And that means stop savaging each other in the primaries.

Primaries are different than general elections. In general elections, you are voting for who wins. In primaries, you are voting for who competes. You are selecting your team while the other parties select their team.

But all too often, Republicans—more so than the sheep-like Democrats who will vote for anyone (or anything) with a “D” in front of their name—savage and tear down the other Republican candidates in favor of their choice. They announce they will never vote for “the other guy” that their Republican teammates chose.  And proceed to savage the other candidates, tearing them down. And inadvertently planting seeds why no one should vote for them in the general.

Is it more important to win the election? Or that your candidate wins?

Don’t discourage. Encourage.

Republican “Insider” and “Outsider” Views

Christine Drazan officially entered the race for Oregon’s governor this week. (Which as no surprise. No serious person thought she wouldn’t.) Up until then, Danielle Bethell, a Marion County Commissioner, was the only legitimate candidate. But what immediately obvious was the hateful comments — not by Democrats. But by Republicans.

Danielle  Bethell’s campaign website – daniellebethellforgovernor.com
Christine Drazan’s campaign website – christinefororegon.com

We talk first to Greg Leo, a long-time political communications expert who got his start in the Reagan White House. He also spent a lot of time working within and for in the Oregon Republican Party as their communications director. Now, he’s a political consultant. We get his take on Christine Drazan entering the race, how to stop Republicans from spoiling their fellow Republicans’ chances, and what Republicans can do to actual win. That means wooing Democrats and non-affiliated voters. Could an actual conservative Republican do that?

Then we talk with Chuck Wiese, a conservative Republican. But someone who is not involved in Republican party politics. But Chuck is becoming more and more of a political activists, having supported and been part of multiple lawsuits against Oregon, focusing especially on election integrity.

We know Chuck is no fan of Drazan, base don how she ran last time. To get his vote, what does she have to do different this time? How can she prove herself to him—one of her biggest doubters? And can Republicans put aside their differences and preferences to focus on winning the general election?

Because Oregon really and literally cannot afford another Democrat governor.

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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info

  • Greg will be speaking at the Capital City Republican Women’s luncheon on Nov. 13th. Meeting runs from 11:30 am – 1:00 pm. Lunch is optional but is $14.00 if you’d like to eat. To attend, please RSVP by sending an email to ccrwsalem@reagon.com.
  • Learn more about America’s 250th! Head to America250.org for events, state pages, and how you can get involved!
  • Danielle  Bethell’s campaign website – daniellebethellforgovernor.com
  • Christine Drazan’s campaign website – christinefororegon.com

 

15-39 We’re Not at War. But We’re at War.

15-39 We’re Not at War. But We’re at War.

Show 15-39 Summary: It’s a shocking reality that the political Left sees violence and murder as acceptable response to speech they disagree with. The rise in far-left political violence will only get worse. This week, we reach out to a psychologist to better understand how people have been brainwashed by violent Antifa offshoot groups. But conservatives. especially Christians, sitting quietly and not getting involved is no longer an option. We talk with a trainer who helps engage conservatives to impact their communities and society.

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Air Dates: September 27th & 28th, 2025 | Guests: Angela Plowhead & Scott Allen

This Week –Far-Left Political Violence: We’re Not at War, But We Are

In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder, many people are still shocked at how the Land of Free Speech got to the point where someone was murdered for his speech. Too many people had no idea just how dangerous Antifa really was. And how their further-left spinoffs are actively training their members to kill.

How did we get here?

That’s easy. The Right has been too tolerant. And too silent. Well, it’s time for the Right and Middle to rise up. And to stop being silent.

A Psychologist on the Left’s Manipulation and Violence

For people familiar with Far-Left, Marxist ideology, it is no surprise the Left lies, manipulates, and exploits society’s most vulnerable. But unlike years past, they have first isolated confused children, convinced them to hate who they really because they are “in the wrong body.” And then manipulate them to channel their hate and anger toward society and authority.

But it’s not just youth. The Left uses clever marketing and the media to confuse vulnerable seniors into thinking policies that are actually good for seniors are somehow bad for them. Which is why the largest demographic that hates Trump are American seniors. Democrats who shriek “disinformation” misinform seniors about Trump’s tariffs, no tax on social security, and more. And convince them Trump is cutting Medicare. He’s not. He’s removing people on Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security who legally should not be getting it. And by removing them, there is more money for those who deserve it.

Tune in to hear psychologist Dr. Angela Plowhead examine the Left’s manipulation. It is truly dangerous. And will lead to more violence and killing. But also hear her solutions to reach out to manipulated seniors and break through their mental blocks.

Keep an eye on Angela. She is running for office in Oregon’s Senate District 10. Her campaign site is Angela4Oregon.com.

Oregon desperately needs common-sense conservatives like Angela Plowhead in office. Help her get there with a donation.

Not Sure What to Do? Get Some Training

Tired of sitting quietly while the Left rampages? You should be. Like any abuser, silence emboldens the Far Left. There are some trainings coming up in the Willamette Valley for conservatives and Christians to learn how to engage and impact their communities. We talk with Scott Allen, the president of the Disciple Nations Alliance who will be leading the training along with Tim Throckmorton, the National Director for Church Engagement & Community Impact for the Family Research Council.

The Far-Left sees your silence about their ideology as permission. And that can and does lead to violence. We are seeing it. And we need to find ways to stop it.

Scott talks to us about the need to get engaged, to not be silent, and also discusses Marxist ideology. The violence we’re seeing now is Neo-Marxism at its worst. (Is there a good side to Marxism?) This trainings will give conservatives, Christians, church leaders, the knowledge and tools to impact their communities.

To learn more, read the workshop flyer and about the trainers (PDFs)
The trainings will be held October 13th, in NE Portland and October 14th in Salem and Corvallis
The events are free to attend. (Donations gladly accepted!)

It’s time. Time to rise up. Not sure where to start? Getting some knowledge is always a good place to start. As long as you can use it.

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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info

  • Angela’s campaign website is Angela4Oregon.com. You can help her win by making a donation. Every bit helps. *Remember: big donors need to see excitement and support for a candidate before they’ll contribute. So don’t think your donation is too small. It’s not. Because your help can lead to bigger fish.
  • Get involved, get trained! Stop surrendering to the Far Left. Staying silent gives permission. Learn more about upcoming community impact trainings  read the workshop flyer and about the trainers (PDFs). Be sure to share and get the word out!
  • Armed Queers group trains radical Marxists to shoot (Just the News, Sept 15, 2025)
  • Worse than Antifa: Inside the new breed (NY Post, Aug 27, 2025)
15-30 Russia Collusion Hoax Declassification Reality Check | What Now?

15-30 Russia Collusion Hoax Declassification Reality Check | What Now?

Show 15-30 Summary: Finally, the real truth comes out about the Russia Collusion Hoax. Newly declassified documents from Director of Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, confirm what we have been saying. The evidence finally and truly reveals Obama’s deep involvement in the Russia hoax. But what do the documents actually say? Did he actually direct it? Or just some minions under him? We ask Mike Howell, president of the Oversight Project, about things to get a reality check. And what now? The word treason is being thrown around. What would it take to get there? And if not treason, what can Obama and his co-conspirators be charged with? Or will democrats once again attack democracy and get away with it?

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Original Air Dates: July 26th & 27th, 2025 | Guest: Mike Howell

This Week – Russia Collusion Hoax Exposed

The Russia collusion hoax evidence was declassified. On one level, it’s not new news. We knew the Obama administration, working with the Hillary Clinton campaign, created and entirely false disinformation campaign to smear candidate Donald Trump with “Russia collusion” to steal the 2016 presidential election.That’s been known since Congressman Devin Nunes went to the White House with the evidence he had seen.And that broke the scandal wide open.

Rather than “Russia collusion” it was quite the opposite. At a White House meeting in July 2016, CIA chief, John Brennan shared what the CIA had learned from Russian sources. Hillary Clinton, in an attempt to distract from her email scandal, planned to smear Trump with “Russia collusion.” Obama, Biden, Susan Rice, and the heads of the intelligence committees leaped into action to give credibility to the smear. Despite knowing that it was a political smear and a lie, James Comey launched the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Trump three days after that meeting. And the Russia collusion hoax was born.

If you heard our previous shows on disinformation you know this is how disinformation works. There must be a a grain of truth — meaning a grounding in reality. By opening the investigation. Obama, Comey, and their minions in the intelligence community gave that grain of truth to Hillary’s smear. Without which it never would have worked. Think about it. Who in their right mind would trust anything Hillary had to say.

Learn more about disinformation. Democrats and their Desperate Disinformation Ploy (Disinformation, Part 1) and Disinformation in Action: Recognize it, Fight it (Part II)

But an FBI investigation into Trump-Russia collusion? And judges issuing FISA warrants? And multiple intelligence agencies all working hard to stop the Russians from interfering in our elections? Suddenly, the dynamics change. Maybe Hillary is on to something. Maybe she’s telling the truth. And maybe she’s a hero, trying to save democracy.All that rather than what it really was. A complete lie. And an attack on democratic elections. Led by democrats.

But what does the declassification and release of all this evidence for conspiracy mean in reality? What now? Trump and Gabbard are both throwing around the word “treason.” Does this rise to treason? If so, what then? If not, what does this conspiracy rise to?

Tune in to find out!

Oversight Project – Russia Hoax Reality Check

We talk with Mike Howell, the president of the Oversight Project. Check out the great work they do to expose corruption at www.itsyourgov.org.

What do the declassified emails and documents actually say? (You can read them yourself; see the links in the show notes section, below.) There is talk of treason.

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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info

  • Mike Howell is the president of the Oversight Project. They were the ones who exposed Biden’s autopen scandal, a phone associated with Butler shooter tracking to a building with an FBI office, and more. Check out Oversight’s other great investigations at ItsYourGov.org
  • THIS: We have been saying this for years. John Brennan’s hand written notes revealed everything you need to know about the Russia collusion hoax. It was a lie. And everything that followed from that WH Meeting was a lie.
  • DNI Release: “Americans will finally learn the truth about how in 2016, intelligence was politicized and weaponized by [Obama]” (Tulsi Gabbard X Post, via Thread Reader, July 18. 2025)
    • “For months preceding the 2016 election, the Intelligence Community shared a consensus view: Russia lacked the intent and capability to hack U.S. elections. But weeks after President Trump’s historic 2016 victory defeating Hillary Clinton, everything changed.
    • Read the declassified info and reports:
      • Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, declassified Evidence from 2016 Russia collusion hoax showing Obama’s direct involvement: DNI, July 18 2025 (PDF)
      • Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, declassified House Intelligence Report: DNI, July 22, 2025 (PDF)
      • Timeline of the Russia Hoax based on newly declassified evidence from DNI Tulsi Gabbard: DNI, July 18, 2025 (PDF)
  • Read Hans von Spakovsky’s article mentioned during the show: Could Obama Be Prosecuted Over the Russian Hoax? A Look at the Law (The Daily Signal, July 23, 2025)

Other Voices Discussing the Russia Collusion Hoax

15-11 Election Consequences Part 2: Clone Voters Exposed

15-11 Election Consequences Part 2: Clone Voters Exposed

Show 15-11 Summary: This week on I Spy Radio, we uncover the explosive next chapter in Election Consequences with Part 2: Clone Voters Exposed. Last week, attorney Peter Ticktin revealed evidence of hundreds of thousands of “clone voters” haunting Florida’s voter rolls. All tied to suspicious mail in ballots in the congressional race in FL-14. Dr. Jerome Corsi joins us to decode the hidden algorithms behind this vote-by-mail fraud. President Trump—longtime ally of both—leads a bold plan involving FBI probes and subpoenas to fix our elections. Tune in for a dive into voter roll tampering and how public support can secure fair, trustworthy outcomes.

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Air Dates: March, 2025 | Guest: Dr. Jerome Corsi

This Week – Clone Voters Election Fraud  

Last week, things started off with a bang. We welcomed first-time guest, attorney Peter Ticktin—founder of Florida’s Ticktin Law Group —who’s digging into something shady in FL-14. Republican veteran Rocky Rochford’s congressional race raised red flags, and Ticktin’s investigation uncovered evidence of hundreds of thousands of potentially “clone voters.” Duplicate entries lurking in Florida’s voter rolls. This isn’t just a local story; it’s a bombshell with national stakes.

Did you miss last week’s show? You can catch it here.

This week, we’re diving deeper. We welcome back Dr. Jerome Corsi, who’s teamed up with Ticktin to chase the data and unmask the truth behind this voter roll tampering. Hidden algorithms creating fake voters slipped into the system, and a digital fraud so slick it’s built to vanish—until the next election. And it specifically exploits vote by mail.

Clone Voters and the Algorithms that Hide Them

Dr. Corsi pulls back the curtain on how these schemes work, why they’re so tough to spot, and what kind of masterminds it takes to pull them off. Plus, he’s got theories on who might be orchestrating it all.

And here’s the kicker: Corsi and Ticktin are not in this alone. President Trump—longtime ally of both men (Trump and Ticktin went to high school together)—is stepping up and creating the plan to fix this. Tune in to hear more about the multi-pronged plan and what needs to happen.

It’s going to be a monumental effort. And if anyone can do this, President Trump can.

But if this is going to succeed, it’s going to need public support. And support from Congress. Are you on board with—finally!—getting to secure and fair elections? Where we can finally trust the outcomes because the system itself is trustworthy?

In the show notes below, you can find a funding proposal from Dr. Corsi (drafted with Ticktin’s approval) to clean up our elections and restore trust. If you can help, please do so! Because we’re talking FBI involvement, subpoenas, and a no-stone-unturned push to expose the truth—and fix the system for good.  To pull this off it will take public exposure. And a lot of it. Be part of the solution!

Tune in to I Spy this week. You’ll wish you had popcorn for this one!

Host Mark Anderson will be speaking to the Capitol City Republican Women’s luncheon on Thursday, April 10th. He’ll be speaking on faith and evidence to strengthen your faith from, of all places, science. For more info or to RSVP, drop Mark an email, mark@ispyradio.com.

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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info

>> Here is Dr. Corsi’s funding proposal (PDF): GOD’S FIVE STONES funding proposal (version 6.0, March 11 2025) <<

14-47 Oregon’s Elections: A Deeper Shade of Blue. Is Oregon Hopeless and Helpless?

14-47 Oregon’s Elections: A Deeper Shade of Blue. Is Oregon Hopeless and Helpless?

Show 14-47 Summary: In 2024, Republicans won the White House, the House, and the Senate. Other states went red. And in county after county, Trump gained support. Even among practically every demographic group. But while so much of the rest of the country went red, Oregon’s elections went a deeper shade of blue—with super majorities now in the house and senate. Is Oregon destined to be California’s mini-me? Or can Republicans save Oregon from itself? And what is on the way for Oregon with democrats in charge of everything? Brace yourself.

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Original Air Dates: November 23rd & 24th, 2024 | Guest: Rep. Ed Diehl

This Week – Oregon’s Elections. What Happened?

While Oregon wasn’t part of it, the rest of the nation voted for a better economy, smaller government, secure borders, free speech, protecting farms, schools that actually teach, and city streets free of crime. Already, Trump’s nominations are causing the Deep State to panic. But he seems committed to keep his promise to downsize and even eliminate agencies.

But not Oregon. For Republicans, Oregon took a disastrous turn as Democrats won all three statewide races (Secretary of State, Treasurer, and Attorney General). And they won a super majority in the state senate and nearly certainly will win a super majority in the house.

After Oregon’s Election, Is there Any Hope Left?

If you remember your Greek mythology, curious Pandora couldn’t resist opening the box and let out sickness, death, and other miseries. That feels like what Oregon just did to itself.

After Oregon’s elections, the prospects of a Democrat super majority in both the state house and senate is a grim reality. Every item on the Democrat wish list of miseries for the state is knocking on the box lid. Demanding to be let out. Taxes and more spending for sure, along with more environmental, “green” energy, and carbon scheme mandates to drive up costs on everything.

But they also have a problem.  Biden’s federal cash flow spigot will soon be turned off. No more federal money rolling into Oregon’s coffers to hide the deficit budget problems like PERS’ huge debt that’s causing school districts and county agencies to feel that debt.

So what can Republicans do?  Like the only thing left in Pandora’s box, Oregon has hope. That’s what we discuss with our guest, Representative Ed Diehl (HD-17).  We take a hard look at Oregon’s election and what Oregonians will be facing. And we discuss the national elections, how other states made big changes, what went right in other states, and why didn’t it go right in Oregon.

See Ed Diehl’s website, EdDiehl.com for more about Ed and news and information. Follow Ed on X (formerly Twitter), @Real_EdDiehl

We also discuss the sole remaining (as of November 21) undecided house seat—Tracy Cramer’s in HD22—from Oregon’s elections. A race that will decide whether democrats get a super majority in Oregon’s house. Also, possible election fraud, and what about Oregon’s voter rolls? And what are we likely to see out of a democrat dual super majority.

And then in a future Part II, Ed will come back—likely after the holidays—to discuss changes and new directions to turn Oregon—yes, Oregon—red.

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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info

  • Listen to Mark’s April 2023 speech to the Capital City Republican Women, mentioned in the opener. Pretty much everything he said to needed to win Oregon in 2024, Republicans in other states did.
  • Around the Halls: Scott Brown’s Special Election Victory and the Congressional Agenda (Brookings University, Jan 20, 2010)
  • Ed Diehl’s website, EdDiehl.com for more about Ed and news and information. Follow Ed on X (formerly Twitter), @Real_EdDiehl
  • Biden authorizes Ukraine to strike Russia with U.S.-supplied long-range missiles (NBC News, Nov 17, 2024)
  • Shocking real reason Biden OK’d Ukraine use of U.S. longer-range missiles against Russia (World Net Daily, Nov 19, 2024)
    • This [escalation] entirely has to do with trying to tie Trump’s hands to a war, dampening his ability to achieve the agenda that the American people want him to achieve.” According to Gaub, “This has been in the [Left’s] plan for quite a while, in anticipation of the landslide victory that occurred earlier this month.”
  • SB870: Nation Popular Vote Interstate Compact – (Oregon Legislative Information Services, 2019), (Wikipedia, no date)
    • If enough states had joined before 2024, all of Oregon’s electoral votes would have gone to Trump—thanks to the democrats.
  • Attorney Matthew DePerno and the RNC Stop Thousands Of Duplicate Ballots From Being Counted (Trending Politics, October 30, 2024
  • Drazan selected as new House GOP leader (Oregon Catalyst, Nov 19, 2024)
  • 9 races that could determine the balance of power in the Oregon Legislature (OPB Oct, 22, 2024)

 

14-46 Welcome to Trump’s New Era: Accountability and Efficiency

14-46 Welcome to Trump’s New Era: Accountability and Efficiency

Show 14-46 Summary: With his popular vote mandate, Trump’s new era could mean a government fully accountable to the people. There will be roadblocks — and the federal government is just the start. An accountable, efficient, and ethical government will trickle down to state governments. Like Oregon. Which, according to Judicial Watch, has the dirtiest voter rolls in the entire nation. We talk with James Hirsen (Tales from the Left Coast) about the election. Trump’s mandate and the likely roadblocks to it, Trump’s free speech blueprint, and the Left’s freakout over Matt Gaetz. They should be worried. And then we talk with Bob Popper, senior attorney for Judicial Watch, about their suit against Oregon to force them to clean up their voter rolls. And yes, Oregon’s all mail-in-ballot voting system does create extra opportunities for fraudulent votes.

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Original Air Dates: November 16, 2024 | Guests: James Hirsen and Bob Popper

This Week – Trump’s New Era

Trump not only won big — he won so big that now democrats are the election deniers. Trump must have cheated. It can’t possibly be they were wrong about him. And that people saw through their massive propaganda to convince people they would be stripped of their rights. (Just look for “Lefties Losing It” and you’ll see no end of Leftists freaking out.) Get used to it. Lefties losing it will be an ongoing theme in Trump’s new era.

Many of them truly believe Trump’s new era will usher in a dictatorship. And it’s easy for them to believe because dictatorship is exactly what the Biden administration was. They’ve been just too blinded by left stream media propaganda to see it. Biden ruled by executive order and ignored Congress. And the courts.

But what really happened was we saw the Republican National Committee’s leadership and other election integrity organizations engaged and engaged big.  And, unlike 2020, actually fighting back, before the cheating could happen. And Republicans got involved on the ground, with hundreds of thousands of volunteers watching drop boxes and election observers, it forced election officials to stay within the boundaries of fair and transparent elections. At least for the most part.

And that decisive Trump win will pull this country out of despair and poverty and into Trump’s new era. The America-First Era where government is held accountable.

James Hirsen: Trump’s Free Speech Blueprint

Bestselling author, attorney, news analyst, and cultural commentator James Hirsen has a lot to say about the Trump victory, the mandate that comes with it, and the Left’s ongoing meltdown. Just what did happen to 70 million Christian voters who said they might sit out the election?

Keep up with all of James Hirsen’s terrific articles at www.JamesHirsen.com

And we look at Trump’s Free Speech Blueprint to restructure government to do its job and defend the 1st Amendment instead of attack it. The government defending our rights? Wow. That would be a switch from the last four years.

Judicial Watch Sues Oregon

Then we welcome first time I Spy guest, Robert Popper, a senior attorney who directs Judicial Watch’s voting integrity efforts.  This fall Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit against Oregon’s to clean up their dirty voter rolls that have not been cleaned for years. Judicial Watch called them the worst in the nation.

Judicial Watch asserts that Oregon and 35 of its 36 counties has overall registration rates exceeding 100%. And that Oregon has the highest known inactive registration rate of any state in the nation.

Commonsense Oregonians are very anxious to get their voter rolls cleaned up and we know many of our listeners will be excited to hear more about this lawsuit. We talked about Judicial Watch’s success in other states, some of the staggering numbers of phantom voters removed, what this lawsuit looks to achieve, and how Oregon might try to dodge it. And whether Oregon’s 100% vote-by-mail system makes inflated voter rolls even more dangerous. Popper gives us a deep dive into election integrity—and the tools Judicial Watch has to fight it.

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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info

  • James Hirsen’s website with his terrific articles is www.JamesHirsen.com
  • Visit JudicialWatch.org for updates on the voting integrity lawsuits, news, and other information as they hold government accountable
  • Congress will be the biggest roadblock to prevent Trump’s agenda. And it’s not just Democrats. It’s Republicans. Here you go:
    • On November 13th, at 12:14 PM Trump posted to Truth Social, congratulating John Thune being elected as Senate Majority Leader. Thune promised to support president trump’s agenda.
    • Three hours 10 minutes later, Trump released a statement on Truth Social, announcing Gaetz’s nomination
    • A slug of Republican senators who had just promised to support Trump immediately criticized the pick. And according to one report between 5 and 10 of them may vote against gates which would sink that nomination
    • Matt Gaetz’s appointment was a test for Senate Republicans to see if they really were behind Trump or just mouthing their support. It took only a few hours for the frauds to expose themselves
  • 2024 Fox News Voter Analysis (Fox News, Nov 8, 2024)
  • 5 takeaways from the 2024 exit polls (The Hill, Nov 8, 2024)
  • The faith vote in 2024 — and how it compared to 2020 (Deseret News, Nov 6, 2024)
  • Trump vows to create Faith Office with access to Oval Office: ‘It’s important’ (Washington Examiner, Oct 28, 2024)

Judicial Watch’s Oregon Lawsuit

  • Judicial Watch Warns Oregon of its Intent to Sue (Judicial Watch, July 25, 2024)
    • Judicial Watch sends Oregon’s Secretary of State a notification of lawsuit over Oregon’s voter rolls. This was their warning shot. When they are warned, some states clean up their rolls on their own. Oregon did not.
  • Judicial Watch Sues Oregon (Judicial Watch, Oct 2024)
    • On October 23rd, Judicial Watch filed suit in federal court against Oregon’s dirty voter rolls
  • Kotek pauses automatic voter registrations (KOIN, Oct 7, 2024)
  • Oregon voter registration error was detected six weeks before (OPB, Sept 27, 2024)
    • September 27th, OPB reports that just 5 days after the July Judicial Watch notification letter, DMV officials suddenly learned in early August that DMV errors had led to improper voter registrations; except it took six weeks until in mid-September, before DMV revealed those errors to the public.
    • By late September DMV announced they found over 1,200 non-citizens (whoopsies!) had been registered to vote
    • State officials said that the clerical errors had been fixed — but the number then grew to over 1,500.
    • By October 11th, DMV confirmed the errors had started in 2021 and occurred in 49 of DMV’s 59 field offices involving 387 individual staff members.
  • Oregon reveals hundreds of non-citizens were mistakenly registered (NY Post, Sept 14, 2024)
  • Noncitizen votes could not have swayed Oregon contests (OPB, Sept 25, 2024)
    • Normies want to know: if they couldn’t sway the election then why keep them on there?

 

 

 

14-44 Final Sprint to Election Day | Truth about Trump v. Kamala Economies

14-44 Final Sprint to Election Day | Truth about Trump v. Kamala Economies

Show 14-44 Summary: It’s the final sprint to the finish line. And the Friday before the election Kamalanomics got some pretty bad news: only 12,000 (not a typo) jobs created in October. And another 112,000 jobs were erased from September and August because they never existed outside of their original headlines that screamed how great the jobs were. This week, we talk with chief economist and executive VP of American Legislative Exchange Council about Trump vs Kamala economic policies. Who has the better economic record, the better administration policy to grow the3 economy, and what their future economies will look like. Kamala is floating some spooky ideas on taxes, spending and debt. And we talk about Trump’s policies that has the Big Spender spooked and why. Get out there and vote like your future and America’s future depends on it. It does.

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Original Air Dates: November 2nd & 3rd, 2024 | Guest: Jonathan Williams

This Week – Truth about Trump vs Kamala Economic Policies

October Surprise? ~The October jobs numbers just came out this morning at a paltry 12,000 new jobs. That’s not a typo. There isn’t a zero missing. Even more bad economic news: they erased another 112,000 jobs from the two previous months, September and August. Jobs that never existed outside the leftstream media propaganda headlines.

Just 12,000 new jobs for all of America (and we’d be negative if not for 40,000 government jobs). It’s a devastatingly low number for the Biden/Harris administration and after Kamala said there’s nothing she’d change regarding Biden’s policies.

Did you miss it? I Spy host had an article published in American Thinker: “The One Overlooked Reason Christians Should Vote in 2024.” Please share that with any reluctant Christians you know that are thinking of not voting.

Oh. And the GDP came in low. A sluggish 2.8%. Lower than the usual 3.0%.

This week, we welcome back Jonathan Williams, the chief economist and executive vice president of the American Legislative Exchange Council, to compare and contrast the Trump economy vs the Kamala economy. What were their records. What did they do right. And how will they differ if elected?

Kamala is floating some spooky ideas about taxes, spending, and debt. And Trump is floating some ideas that is spooking the big-government big-spenders. Listen and find out.

Personally? The difference really comes down to this: Trump wants to grow the economy. Kamala wants to grow government. It really is that simple.

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  • Jonathan’s organization is ALEC – the American Legislative Exchange Council. Find out more at ALEC.org.
    • Encourage your representatives to join ALEC! There are state and city memberships. Help elected officials understand economic problems and the real solutions available to get out of them! Send them this link: https://alec.org/membership/.
    • And you too can join as a private-sector member!
    • You can follow Jonathan on Twitter at @TaxEconomist.
  • Head to Rich States, Poor States to see how your state is doing. And for a taste of what Kamalanomics and Walzonomics would be like, check out how badly Minnesota is doing under governor Tim Walz. (Hint: worse than Oregon!)
  • Check out Trump’s platform, “Agenda 47.” A 20-point plan, much of which focuses on the economy.
  • Mike Johnson discusses plan to get rid of Obamacare. (Via X, Oct 31 2024)
  • 3 Charts Show How Biden-Harris Admin Grew Debt by $8 Trillion (Daily Signal, Oct 22, 2024)
  • Five Frightening Financial Charts To Fear This Halloween! (ZeroHedge, Oct 31, 2024)
  • Jobs Shock: October Payrolls Huge Miss As Private Jobs Go Negative For First Time Since 2020 (ZeroHedge, Nov 1, 2024)
  • U.S. economy grew at a 2.8% pace in the third quarter, less than expected (CNBC, Oct 30, 2024)
14-43 It’s the Economy, Stupid | Stupid Energy Policies

14-43 It’s the Economy, Stupid | Stupid Energy Policies

Show 14-43 Summary: There are stupid energy policies and then there are Kamala-level stupid energy policies. And they start with a wrong understanding of how the economy works. Not everyone invests in the stock market, not everyone runs a business. But everyone needs energy. Not just energy for your home or where you work but getting there and back. And practically everything bought or sold arrives on a truck. This week, we look at stupid energy policies. If you think things are bad and expensive now, a Kamala win would make things more expensive. And stupider.

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Original Air Dates: October 26, 2024 | Guest: Frank Lasee

This Week – Stupid Energy Policies

The election finish line is within sight and this week we are looking at the economy, which is the top issue for most voters. In particular, we look at one major aspect of the economy: energy. We zero in on what the Biden/Kamala administration has done to energy prices to make things so much more expensive, which of course impacts everything that people buy and not just their utility bills. Mandates, regulations, and ideology is behind it all. They

They are the kind of stupid energy policies you would expect from someone in charge who does not understand the economy. And certainly has never owned a business.

We welcome back Frank Lasee, a senior policy advisor for CFACT and the president of Truth in Energy and Climate, to talk about the stupid energy policies of the Biden-Harris administration.

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty: modern day Democrats are Hitler. Or at least want policies just like his. Read “Hitler’s Views on Private Property and Nationalization” from the Mises Institute. You’d swear it was from a recent democrat rally.

The Energy Policies that Hurt You and the Economy

It’s simple. When energy costs more, everything costs more. When energy costs less, prices go down. Unless energy goes down, prices won’t. And the Biden-Harris administration declared war on energy. What direction will prices go?

And did you know that you’re paying for green energy — even when you’re not buying green energy? It’s not just your taxes.

Here’s one example. You might know about carbon credits (a tax on energy). But did you know there are regulation credits? Car companies that can’t sell electric vehicles have to buy these regulation credits from EV companies—and then to absorb that loss, the car companies add the cost of that regulation credit to the cost of the gas-powered cars. So even if you’re not buying an EV, you’re still paying for an EV.

That’s just one stupid energy policy.

But here’s the thing. All the “green energy” mandates, the zero-emissions, the carbon credits, the EVs, and on and on? it will have little to no change on emissions. And they know that. Think about it. Why would you force people to spend money on more expensive energy when they could be spend that money on other things that they need or want? Especially if it’s not going to make any bit of difference.

If it won’t make any difference, the only logical reason is if your side of the aisle is getting an awful lot of money. It’s about money. Forcing you to pay more, so their side of the political aisle makes more.

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California’s Stupid Energy Policies

  • Newsom’s New Bill to ‘Hold Big Oil Accountable’ – will Fine Local Refineries Up to $1 Million PER DAY, Cause Gas Prices to Spike – Refineries Announce They Are Leaving CA (Gateway Pundit, Oct 21, 2024)*“Price spikes have cost Californians billions of dollars over the years, and we’re not waiting around for the industry to do the right thing,” Newsom said.*The measure will force local refineries to stockpile fuel and if they don’t follow the new regulations they can be fined up to $1 million PER DAY.*The heavy fines will inevitably be passed down to the consumer and cause gas prices to spike.
  • Commiefornia: “For some time, many of us have been ridiculed for suggesting that @GavinNewsom wants to own all California gas refineries. But now we’re seeing it.” Dr. Houman David Hemmati (via X, Sept 26, 2024)
  • California Energy Commission floats the idea of taking over oil refineries. Just like Venezuela. See table 19, Overview of State-Owned Refineries: “The State of California would purchase and own refineries in the State to manage the supply and price of gasoline.” (Emphasis mine.)
  • How will the state manage the slow death of California’s gasoline industry? (Los Angeles Times, September 26th, 2024)

Green Energy Dying?

  • Harris Shifts Her EV Mandates Into Reverse—Until After the Election (The Daily Signal, October 23, 2024)
    • “The push to electrify trucking is even more unhinged. Electric trucks are very expensive to buy and have terrible payload capacity and range.”
    • “Almost everything anyone buys gets shipped on a truck at some point, and the shipping industry will have no choice but to pass these enormous costs downstream.”
    • “Electric vehicle mandates will lead ‘to little to no change’ in greenhouse-gas emissions.”
  • Amazon plans to power Eastern Oregon data centers with nuclear reactors (OPB, Oct 23, 2024)
  • Offshore wind looked like a sure thing for Oregon — until it wasn’t. What went wrong? (OPB, Oct 23, 2024)

Related/Additional

The Irrationality of Western Energy Policies (Watts Up with That, October 21, 2024)

Dumb & Dumber: Germany Wins Prize For World’s Most Idiotic Energy Policy (Stop These Things, Feb 20, 2022)

Biden’s Energy Policy – Dumb and Dangerous (AMAC, July 25, 2023)

 

 

14-42 Get Out of the Pew | Why Christians Need to Vote

14-42 Get Out of the Pew | Why Christians Need to Vote

Show 14-42 Summary: This week we bring you a very important show, one that could change the outcome: why Christians need to vote. In 2020 the official margin of victory was some 10 million votes. But all that was needed for an electoral college win was a few 10s of thousands in the swing states. A recent study, found that 73 million Christians might sit out the 2024 election. We talk Lew Wootan, a protestant/evangelical pastor, and Tommy Valentine, from CatholicVote, to get their perspectives on should Christians vote, why don’t they, and how do we get Christians to vote?

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Original Air Dates: October 19, 2024 | Guests: Lew Wootan & Tommy Valentine

This Week – Why Christians Need to Vote

Why do some people not take action when, if they did, they could have a major impact? And this is especially true of Christians. Who, ironically, are called to be the salt and light of the Earth. That doesn’t mean just standing there. It means doing something. Taking action.

And yet, according to one study, up to 73 million American Christians, may not vote in the 2024 election. Even if just half of them voted it would ensure victory against a Kamala Harris administration that has proven to be hostile to Christians and to Christianity. So why sit out the election?

This week we talk about should Christians vote, why don’t Christians vote, and how do we get Christians to vote. It’s time to get out of the pew and into the voting booth.

Why Christians Need to Vote: Protestant/Evangelical Perspective

First up, we talk with Pastor Lew Wootan from The River Church in Salem, Oregon. Pastor Lew walks us through why Christians should definitely vote and be engaged. And some of the bad information that would encourage Christians not to vote. As Pastor Lew sees it, churches that are not engaged, and pastors that encourage Christians not to be engaged, have a wrong perception about the duty of Christians. Which is to be engaged and active rather than invisible.

Pastor Lew especially takes aim at the notion that we are to be “in the world but not of the world” and how that has been wrongly used to disengage Christians from society.

Tune in to hear from an evangelical perspective not just why Christians need to vote but why Christians absolutely need to vote.

Why Christians Need to Vote: Catholic Perspective

And then we talk with Tommy Valentine, the director of the Catholic Accountability Project at CatholicVote—the nation’s largest lay Catholic advocacy organization. Tommy helps lead CatholicVote’s efforts to keep a watchful eye on Catholic institutions and politicians—yes, we ask him about Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden—as well as defending Catholics in the public square.

Why Christians Need to Vote - CBS Banned CatholicVote’s Commercial
See why CBS banned CatholicVote’s devastating ad against Kamala Harris (click to watch)

CatholicVote came to our attention after several news sources broke the story that CBS refused to air their devastating ad against Kamala Harris’s attack on children. Including mutilating transgender surgeries.

Let’s not forget. The Biden/Harris administration has been openly hostile to Christians of all faiths. Biden/Kamala sent the FBI to spy on Christian parents who went to school board meetings to protest woke, anti-Christian ideology being pushed on their children. Biden and Kamala have defended pornography in school libraries. And they have completely destroyed the protections for girls and women in favor of biological men when they rewrote Title IX. (See our previous show on Biden/Harris destroying Title IX.)

GREAT post on X about Catholics being able to decide the election, and democrats’ open hostility toward Christians—especially Catholics, whom they label as “extremists.”

We get the Catholic perspective on why Christians need to vote in 2024. And some great ideas Catholic churches have to get Christians to vote — by bringing the voting booth into the church.

And don’t miss the discussion from both our guests about the spiritual war happening right now in America.

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  • The River Church’s website is www.TheRiverNW.com;
  • CatholicVote, Tommy Valentine’s organization’s website is www.CatholicVote.org.
  • Study: Millions of Christians not planning to vote this November, could shape election: Study (Just the News, October 7, 2024)
    • “Christians could be the deciding factor in a bunch of federal and state races – and are choosing not to be.”
  • Why (and how) Christians should vote (Christianity.com, September 22, 2020)
    • “Christians have both a civic and a Christian responsibility to vote. … [To] vote is the beginning of our civic duty of Christians.”
  • Great thread on X from CatholicVote, re democrats’ attacks on Catholics and that it must end – Example of the attacks Gov Whitmer, one of the most prominent democrats in the country mocking the Eucharist.
  • Kamala’s Desperate Push For Black Voters, CBS Editing Scandal Gets Worse, And Plagiarism Experts. (CatholicVote, X, Oct 16, 2024)

Articles Mentioned

Related Info

 

14-41 Competent or Stupid? | What’s at Stake in the 2024 Election

14-41 Competent or Stupid? | What’s at Stake in the 2024 Election

Show 14-41 Summary: What’s at stake in the 2024 election is not just who’s running for president. The whole of government is at stake. This week we continue to look at why elections matter, reminding you that you are giving someone else legal control over you, your business, your church, and so many other facets of your life. Do you want competent people? Or stupid people who will waste your money? We look at the incompetence of Multnomah’s lawsuit against the weather. We also look at some down ballot issues, including Oregon’s Measure 117 to force ranked choice voting on Oregon. if that wins, it would take the democracy right out of democracy. Get out and vote. And stop stupid people from doing stupid things.

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Original Air Dates: October 12, 2024 | Guests: Chuck Wiese and Ed Diehl

This Week – Competence at Stake in the 2024 Election

We continue to look at why elections matter, reminding you that you are giving someone else legal control over you, your business, your church, and so many other facets of your life. Do you want competent people? Or stupid people who will waste your money? In the 2024 election, make it your goal to stop stupid people from doing stupid things.

We look at the incompetence (stupidity) of Multnomah’s lawsuit against the weather. The lawsuit is a waste of government money (your money), time, and resources. Worse — even if they win, it will cost you even more money.

We talk with meteorologist and fearsome global warming debunker, Chuck Wiese about Multnomah’s lawsuit against “fossil fuel”companies, blaming them for “heat dome” deaths during a hot summer. But no, sorry global warmers, it was not the hottest ever.

Stupid Government does Stupid Stuff

But first up, we talk with Chuck about the back-to-back hurricanes, Helene and Milton, that hit the Southeast. Is that unusual? And how did Chuck correctly predict that Milton would weaken from a category 5 and hit landfall at only a category 3, and further weaken to a category 1 when it made it to the Atlantic?

Then we talk about Multnomah County suing the sky. Or the weather. Or who they think causes the weather. According to KOIN, Multnomah is seeking $50 million in damages, $1.5 billion in “future damages” and another $50 billion for an “abatement fund.” In other words, a slush fund to hand out to far-left groups.

Here’s how stupid that is. There are 364,000 households in Multnomah County. If the “evil fossil fuel companies” lose and allot that $51.55 billion loss to Multnomah households (because why should they punish Polk or Marion or any other county for this nuisance lawsuit?) over 20 years, that’s $7,081 per household added to their fuel and utility costs. Per year. You can thank Multnomah County for that self-inflicted stupidity.

But it’s not just the cost of things. Stupid people in Multnomah government are attacking people’s rights. They are also suing Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine which isn’t even in Multnomah County. Why? For spreading “misinformation” about global warming. Yes. There’s your stupid people in government suing people for free speech.

Did government forget it’s supposed to defend free speech?

Yes. Because they’re stupid. In the 2024 election, stop stupid people from doing stupid things.

Yes, Oregon, Democracy is What’s at Stake in the 2024 Election

We also look at some down ballot issues, including Oregon’s Measure 117 to force ranked choice voting on Oregon. if that wins, it would take the democracy right out of democracy.We welcome back Representative Ed Diehl (OR-HD17) back to the show to talk about an actual threat to democracy, Oregon’s ballot measure 117. (Sorry, democrats. Trump is not a threat to democracy. If Trump wins, that is democracy.) The measure would change our current voting system to ranked choice voting.

If ballot measure 117 were to pass, it change how we vote for every candidate from U.S. president down to local races. With one exception. Referred to the voters by Oregon’s far-left democrats in the legislature, Measure 117 curiously would not change how legislators are elected.

Ed Diehl walks us through how Measure 117 and ranked choice voting would take the democracy right out of democracy by opening voting itself to strategic manipulation. Apparently, the far left isn’t happy enough with voter fraud and election fraud, they have to game the system for voting fraud.

For a great explanation, see this ranked choice article on Ed Diehl’s website. And for further reading see the links in the show notes, below.

And we talk about the latest on the motor voter scandal. Gosh. They found another 300 illegally registered illegal immigrants. After we just talked about that last week with Dennis Linthicum, who is running for Secretary of State. Do we really have any real idea of just how many fraudulent voters have been registered — through motor voter and Obamacare signups?

Get out and vote. Stop stupid people from doing stupid things.

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Mentioned in the opener, Frederic Bastiat’s The Candlestick Makers’ Petition.

Chuck Wiese, Segments 1–3

  • Multnomah County goes after big oil for heat dome deaths, files lawsuit (KOIN6, June 22, 2023)
  • Multnomah County alleges NW Natural is behind ‘substantial portion’ of Oregon pollution (KOIN6, Oct 9, 2024)
  • Hurricane Milton Leaves at Least 10 Dead, Millions Without Power in Florida, (Epoch Times, October 9th, 2024)
    • Exactly as Chuck predicted: “Hurricane Milton made landfall at Siesta Key, Florida as a Category 3 storm, but weakened more than expected after it touched down. Ninety minutes after landfall, it had slowed to Category 2, and crossed into the Atlantic as a Category 1 on Thursday morning.”

Ed Diehl, Segments 4–6

  • For more information about Ed Diehl, see his website, EdDiehl.com.
  • THIS → Everything You Need To Know About Ranked-Choice Voting And Its Glaring Problems (The Federalist, October 1, 2024)
  • Ranked-Choice Voting Is Not the Solution (Democracy Journal, Nov 3, 2016)
  • The flaw in ranked-choice voting: rewarding extremists (The Hill, October 10, 2022)
  • FYI, Oregon’s Measure 117 ranked choice voting create Instant Runoff Voting system. In this method, voters rank candidates in order of preference. If no candidate receives a majority (50% + 1), the candidate with the fewest votes is eliminated, and their ballots are redistributed to the next-ranked candidate.*There are dozens of ranked choice voting methods.*Fun (okay, worrisome) fact: according to the Gibbard-Satterthwaite theorem, every voting method with at least 3 alternative candidates can be strategically manipulated. Why would you open the door to voting manipulate unless you plan to manipulate the vote?
  • Judicial Watch Warns Oregon Over Lawsuit (Judicial Watch, July 25, 2024)*According to Judicial Watch’s initial investigations, eight of Oregon counties have more voter registrations than citizens of voting age
  • Secretary of State’s office announces deactivation of 1,259 voter registrations (KEZI, Sept 23, 2024)
  • Oregon voter registration error was detected six weeks before top elections officials were told (OPB, Sept 27, 2024)