15-38 Time to Stand | Free Speech – Rights and Lies
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how 15-38 Summary: You would think the Left would learn something from the murder of Charlie Kirk. But the only thing that changed was their delusion got worse. Requests for Turning Point chapters are exploding across the country but leftist administrators are telling kids they aren’t allowed. Except it turns out, that’s a lie. Speaking of lies, people in Oregon’s CD6 with a political agenda tried to recall the chair, claiming he had stolen money. In a shocking misuse of free speech, using innuendo and rumor they convinced fellow Republicans that Don Powers had to go. But after baring their knives, they failed to take out Caesar. So now what?
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Air Dates: September 20th & 21st, 2025 | Guests: Kimberly Hermann & Don Powers
This Week – Free Speech
Surviving in the political world are no longer simply about winning elections. Now we saw someone murdered for their political beliefs. In America. The land of free speech. Trump’s attempted assassination was a fortunate, some say divine, miss. But now Charlie Kirk’s death has shaken people on both sides of the aisle. Well, the sensible ones anyway.
Charlie connected with millions, most of whom never met him but felt they personally knew him. And what we saw was how fiercely he was loved — and hated.
Imagine having a political ideology so weak that someone would kill someone because challenging your beliefs were a threat. Something is not just wrong with the assassin. But with their beliefs as well. If you are mentally unable to cope with challenges to your beliefs, something in your innermost soul is screaming out at you that your beliefs are wrong.
Defending — and Misusing — Free Speech
This week, we talk with Kimberly Hermann, the president of Southeastern Legal Foundation. A fantastic group that sues governments when they trample on people’s constitutional rights. After Charlie Kirk’s murder, Turning Point was absolutely swamped with requests for new chapters at high schools and universities all across the country. Over 49,000 last we looked.. Except, she is already hearing from parents that some democrat administrators are telling kids they are not allowed at their schools.
That’s a lie. Kids have a First Amendment right to start a Turning Point chapter. And if you or your kids or grand kids are being stonewalled by woke administrators who don’t want free speech on their campuses, contact Southeastern Legal Foundation. Despite the name, they take cases all across the country. Go here to submit a case.
But this week, it’s more than just using free speech. We also talk about misusing it. And government fumbles. Pam Bondi got it wrong saying the DOJ would “absolutely go after” people for hate speech. Hate speech is protected. (Sorry Lefties. “Hate speech” is not “someone said something I hate.”) But lies aren’t. We ask Kim hat can be done about the lies. Especially lies that lead to violence.
What NOT to Do: Oregon’s CD6
And lies and innuendo are what led to the attempt to take out the chair of Oregon’s 6th Congressional District. Regardless of party, some people crave party leadership positions like they are titled fiefdoms. And will do anything to get them and hang on to them.
That appears to be what happened in Oregon’s CD6. Don Powers, the chair of CD6, was approached out of the blue with the idea of holding an inaugural ball, because the Oregon Republican Party (ORP) wasn’t doing anything to celebrate Trump’s 2024 victory.Someone offered the “seed money” to get the ball rolling.
But in the rush to pull one together, book an event space in Washington D.C., a band, guests, and all the rest — in only about 60 days, communication broke down and mistakes were made. And despite a fantastic event, the rumor mill started, accusations were made. And it got uglier from there.
Those wanting Don Powers removed to take his seat unleashed a blizzard of accusations, despite a warning by the ORP’s own attorney to drop it and avoid any further liability. Lies are not protected free speech. That’s why there are courts. Nasty accusations were all over social media. Someone did a full background check, which was sent out in an email with a litany of accusations, citing the bylaws and he-said/she-saids.
But the accusations fell apart and Don won overwhelmingly. After the lies and accusations, how do you repair things as an organization? How do you have a working relationship to help Republicans win in 2026? Many Republicans believe the ORP has been infiltrated by Democrats.
Whether they are democrats or not, whether they meant to or not, this was destructive. And all for a volunteer political position. Wow.
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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info
- Kim Hermann’s organization is Southeastern Legal Foundation. Visit them at slfliberty.org.
- Conservative Wisconsin professor condemns university’s silence on Kirk assassination (The College Fix, Sept 15, 2025)
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